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Perpetual Motion Impossible
***Update -7/27/09 – I’ve confirmed with my own eyes that Magniwork is a SCAM! One of the readers was kind enough to share the Magniwork plans with me and they are laughable. The whole “document” is 57 pages long and looks like something a kid in high school put together. The final “generator” is basically a magnet that is 2″ high sitting on a turntable that is 4″ high! They claim that its output is 24.5 Watts! That is 1/100th of what my house uses when the AC is on. That is nothing! Basically the plans tell you how to make a mini-electrical generator, but they dont even tell you how you are supposed to turn the thing to produce energy! The thing is about the size of your palm, so even if you did find a “free” way to rotate the shaft, it wouldnt put out enough power to light up a standard light bulb. It’s completely ridiculous. Please don’t even attpempt to build this thing, just look at the plans if you want a good laugh. Here is some text in regards to how the Magniwork is supposed to be powered:
This power source is not predicated on a continuous flow of energy but predicated on the consistency of the transmutation process of the magnetic molecular structures within the Earth’s pressure flow.
What does that even mean? By reading the text it doesn’t look like it was a native English speaker who wrote the thing. I bet the author has some money they need to wire to you from a Nigerian bank account.
Whatever you do, don’t waste your money on this!
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***Update #2 – 7/30/09 – See the Magniwork plans online for free at this site: Magniwork stole the plans from here. Thanks to Ajax Chen for finding the link. While the site is not the exact version of the plans, it looks like the Magniwork authors just copy and pasted (without even bothering to change the images at all) from the site. From now on, don’t even bother to ask for a copy of the plans in the comment section, just see the above link!
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***Update #3 – 8/5/09
Since I’m still getting comments from people saying that they will try to build the generator if they see the plans, I realize I just have to post some pictures of the plans. Once you see the ridiculousness of the “machine” there is no way anyone would try and build it. It’s like if I told you I knew of a ground breaking way to cool your home for free, then gave you plans to build a standard refrigerator. Would you still try and build a standard fridge? Pictures coming tonight!
Well, here’s the picture I promised. The picture below is taken from this site, which Magniwork stole the plans from.
The amazing Magniwork Generator!
I don’t know if you can see, but the device will put out an amazing 24.5 Watts. Maybe enough to charge your phone! All you need is a few thousand of these and maybe you can power your house. But wait, what’s going to spin them? Who knows.
Also, the only equipment they talk about is a Multimeter and a Soldering Iron. Ha! The only reason I’m not posting the plans is because I’m sure these scam artists would threaten me with a lawsuit and waste my time.
I am really bothered at how many sites there are when you Google “magniwork” claiming it is for real. This just means that these are also scam sites that get a commission for selling the fake plans. Don’t trust these sites!
***Update #4 – 8/7/09
It’s amazing (and infuriating) how many scam sites come up when you Google “magniwork”. They have been able to weasel their way into a high google ranking. The one site with a high ranking that is not a scam is this great article on PESWiki regarding Magniwork. If you don’t take my word for it, read their review.
***Update #5 – 8/18/09
Magniwork has been my most popular post by far. There were 210 people who found this post through Google just yesterday, so these scam artists have made their mark on the web. Based on a recent comment, I want to make one thing clear: I am not calling out this scam because it violates laws of physics (which it does). I am calling out this scam because I have seen where they stole the information and read through their laughable instructions that look like they were written by a 10 year old. Even if the generator actually worked, they completely fail to show how it can power anything bigger than a light bulb, much less your home! This was put together by someone who wanted to take advantage of people trying to save energy. I’m sorry if you’ve been suckered into this. If you really want to save energy at home, spend $15 and buy The Home Energy Diet: How to Save Money by Making Your House Energy-Smart (Mother Earth News Wiser Living Series). It is the most comprehensive analysis of conserving home energy, and it is not a scam! All I can say is follow Mapawatt Blog and hopefully you’ll prevent yourself from falling into these scams in the future!
***Update #6 – 8/22/09
I’ve dedicated a whole post to Magniwork and other Renewable Energy scams . One thing it points out is that Magniwork and Ambigrid are the same thing. It also raises the question, Are Magniwork and Earth4Energy related?
***Update #7 – 9/13/09
Thanks to everyone’s help, it looks like our exposure of Magniwork has got them squirming. Seems like they’ve changed their tune a little bit and are hawking Magniwork with a new name called Magnets4Energy. No, I am not going to link to them, but you can do a Google search for yourself to see how these scammers operate.
***Update #8 – 10/20/09
The guys at off-grid.net have done a great story on the scammers behind Magniwork and a great review of the Magniwork Scam and how it works.
***Update #9 – 01/24/10
I found this great history of perpetual motion machines. Guess what, none of them worked. Reminded me of Magniwork.
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Original Post
I recently added some Google Ads to the site (yes, I am a capitalist) and I ran across this add for a company called Magniwork showing up on my sidebar. They were advertising “free energy” so of course it caught my eye. On their site they say, “How would you like to create a generator which creates free electric energy?” They then show some diagram that is completely useless (and actually includes an diesel generator?) and finally go on to say:
A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy Generator. It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion. It runs by itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating completely free electrical energy, which can fully power your home for free. A Perpetual motion device refers to a machine that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely, and produces a larger amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces free energy indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a third-party device or resource to power it.
Perpetual motion! Woo Hoo! Sounds like a great deal huh? Unfortunately it violates that First Law of Thermodynamics. Physicists and Engineers don’t call it the LAW of conservation of energy just to have a clever marketing name.
Why can you never have a perpetual motion machine? Because you will always have friction! Whether it is air friction or friction of a rotating shaft on a bearing, you will always have it! Friction causes things to slow down, so no matter how much energy you start with, friction will slowly eat away at that energy. And this is just a machine that moves forever, not even a machine that has to create electricity with its movement. If you have to create electricity, it requires much more work , so how are you going to overcome natural friction AND create electricity without any losses?
You can have machines that take advantage of wind, solar power, batteries, temperature gradients, etc., but these are not perpetual motion machines. They are just taking energy from one form and converting it to another. You can’t create anything from nothing!
The website isn’t even selling a machine, but just plans for a machine. Obviously that is a smart idea for an energy scam artist. They can always claim that you just hooked it up wrong. And they claim that the reason you haven’t heard of this wonderful device yet is because corporations are suppressing the information. Let me promise you this: If a perpetual motion machine existed that created electricity, it would make a corporation the richest corporation in the world. That’s a fact. Corporations would love to sell a machine that created free electricity!
They also have several customer testimonials on the site. As I covered in my article on the Power Factor scam device, never trust customer testimonials on a website. Do you know how easy it is to make one up. Here, let me show you:
John McGillicutty from Kalamazoo, Michigan says, “MapAWatt Blog is the greatest blog in the whole entire world. If you aren’t reading this blog you are crazy. Mapawatt has saved me millions in energy bills. Millions I tell you!”
See, I just made that up, but I bet you thought it was real because there was a name and a city attached to the quote. Don’t believe customer testimonials on websites that sound like a scam! The website states, “Hundreds of successful magniwork generators have been built around the world, which is a proof that this technology really works!”. This means there are many fools that took the bait, not that it works (Thanks Randy for providing this last insight.)
If you are some sucker that got pulled in to trying to sell one of these devices or if you actually bought this, I’m sorry. If you are going to try to argue that it really does work, show me this device hooked up to an energy meter like the TED or any other energy meter. Then prove to me it isn’t hooked up to any external power/battery sources. If you can prove that it works, congratulations, you just won the Nobel Prize……
Until then, I’m calling B.S.!
***Update – 11/03/09 – One of the Mapawatt team members sent me the Mythbuster’s Free Energy segment. Guess what? They busted the Free Energy myth!
There is enough information from reading all of the listed entries that I can see that there are real working models of the free energy machines regardless of how big or small they are. I don’t care if something is or isn’t a ‘perpetual motion 100% machine’. I don’t care! I would gladly replace worn out bearings or the whole machine if it will power my house for hundreds or thousands of hours and save me tons of money from the powers that be.!!! Don’t we do the same for our car when the bearings are worn out and the rings are shot after thousands and thousands of miles?? I want people to realize there is no amount of scam talk that will stop inventions from coming to pass and that the laws of physics are hard core. New inventions have re-written past laws of physics in history.We are in the latter days when ‘Knowledge shall increase’. So let it be written ,so let it be done.
James, I don’t think you read enough. No devices exist that even come close to free energy. I think you missed the point? Please show me one working device in the whole world that comes close to perpetual motion! Are you joking with the readers or are you a scammer?
Doing a bit of digging, I too found “review” and scam sites which were obviously meant to aid sales of Magniworks and its apparent partner, Magnets 4 Energy. They certainly know how to game Google, don’t they?
This is the first real review site I’ve found today, but there are several others waiting.
Thanks for the public service.
Ken
I am a electrical genious specilizing in motor and generator repair and rewinding
also i know everything ther is to know about ways to control motor ac or dc
if you send me the plans i could verify what this thig could do. so far from what i seen
it could not even rotate
Chuck,
A commenter below you posted this link:
http://www.magniwork.com/mgw_09x.pdf
Which is a free source for the plans hosted by Magniwork, which I don’t really understand why they put them up for free, but as you can see they are a joke.
Thanks Chris
dam! i did something like this in 1972 when i was in 8th grade for a science project
if u require about 40-60 kwa to run a average size house the generater produces more friction
a there come the physics (Magnetic flux). this thing will bog down and stop like a regen brake. your better off with solar, but u have to wait till they can make the cells cheaper per watt. i already installed about a dozen systems in nj range from 75 to 250 kwh and you wont belive how big and expensive the inverters are the amout off solar panels you need
one system was the whole roof of a shopright supermarket. screw these dum asses they have a better chance at fusion than with this device(i done work at ppl and got to stick my heas inside a fusion reactor and look around pretty cool!! thanks again chuck
Thanks a lot for your site, I like everyone who has an interest in energy savings should do what I did and that was an internet search for the scam and I found the answers here, thanks much and I hope common sense rules the day for intelligent people, I guess next we need to figure out how to sue these scam artists for the damages they do, thanks again, John
Hey, thanks for your info about this company.I have no clue about any of the physics nor mechanics involved with energy sources. I am working with a mission group that is looking for a way to get low cost energy for a well pump and a small school in the CentAm jungle.
While looking at possible energy sources, I found another website, and I’d love to hear your thoughts about it…
http://www.lutec.com.au/other/SGS_Report.pdf
They claim that at full load, it produces 244.4 watts.
thanks-barb
My recommendation is don’t waste your time looking at them. If they really do have some magical device available to the public, it will be the biggest news story in all the world. Until then, I would suggest researching viable sources (solar PV and small wind turbine) to help out the people in the jungle!
mapawatt blog owner..will you please explain this in terms of your laws of thermodynamics?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0y5jZ8eeUc
these machines are real…the reason why you always find the crappy scam sites in google is because it isnt hard to get top organic search listings with a bit of marketing experience. this is a suppressed technology and there is no recurring profit in it for big corporations so they usually buy out the inventors and their machines. do some more research before telling the whole world that ‘free energy’ doesnt exist. i bet you dont even know what orgone energy is? or prana? chi? life force?
what about Stan Meyers inventions? his were so revolutionary they had to send assasins to murder him because the technology works and will put an end to big oil/coal profits. use your brain instead of relying on physics that is based on last century ideas…also try looking past the 1st page of google and try looking a little deeper into your research instead of the crappy one page blogs selling rehashed material.
With a bit of support, we can put an end to the fossil fuel madness, and it seems to me you are part of a group funded to put out dis-information about free energy. do you get paid? or do you just take pleasure in bashing revolutionary ideas?
I DO agree magniworks is crap, but look at the real peer reviewed stuff and then make an opinion on free energy.
Chris, From wikipedia on perpetual motion:” Perpetual motion violates either the first law of thermodynamics, the second law of thermodynamics, or both. The first law of thermodynamics is essentially a statement of conservation of energy. The second law can be phrased in several different ways, the most intuitive of which is that heat flows spontaneously from hotter to colder places; the most well known statement is that entropy tends to increase, or at the least stay the same”
Trust me, I’m a mechanical engineer and physics nut who has read more on the subject than many I know. I WANT TO BELIEVE IN PERPETUAL MOTION. But I don’t think it is physically possible.
As to the video you posted, it’s a fake. This video has been going around the internet for years. Please show me a machine that has actually been built that is a perpetual motion machine. I will then call ABC, CBS, Fox News, CNN and tell them they have the biggest story of the century on their hands.
Don’t give me the crap about “Big Corporations”. Blah Blah Blah. I’ll give you $10,000,000 right now for the rights to a perpetual motion machine if you had one. Do I have that money…nope. But I would raise it in a heart beat, with or without the help of “evil” corporations.
Nobody is suppressing information…it just doesnt exist!!!
Thanks heaps for your site. I was pretty sure it was a scam and if you read the disclaimer on the magnicrap website it states the only way you can take legal action is if you go to Macedonia! This despite the fact that it is supposed to come from the US. By the way Solar and wind are great, I lived on a property with a $60,000 system 1.5 KW solar, 1 KW wind but from Feb to August we still had to run a petrol generator a couple of times a week, those months are almost always overcast and no wind. So no matter how much you spend on a solar/wind system you will still need a petrol/deisel genny unless you are on the power grid.
Obviously it takes more than a mechanical engineer to overcome naivety.
It’s time for you to realise and understand that the world is run by money.
You’re also mixing terms. This is not about perpetual motion utopia, but over uniy/excess energy.
You could always take a look here, but you could also not give a shit about it as you are as easy to convince as it is to get a extremist muslim to give up Allah for God.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JikYfmEdF8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak3rt6p_dyY&feature=related
Rundfunk,
Thanks for the videos. These are hilarious! I can’t believe this company takes itself seriously! Was this a skit for Saturday Night Live? Seriously, please show me a scientific analysis of this Steorn machine and not some company propaganda. Anyone can hook a DC motor up to a battery, make it spin, and then claim “Eureka!”
Rundfunk, Have you seen this? Sorry to ruin your hopes:
http://dispatchesfromthefuture.com/2009/06/the_jury_is_in_no_free_energy_from_steor.html
I think this guy must be working for the oil companies. most intelligent people i ever met are fully aware of what the oil companies would do to someone who wants to release this kind of technology. 400 trillion in fossil fuel sales, how much do you think these guys are willing to pay to buy out, threaten, steal or kill to keep these profits. i will take the word or hundreds of real witnesses before i listen to this website critic. you guys are the scum of the earth. you really are. You have any idea how many patents they have locked away? do more research.
Wow Fred, You’ve really figured it all out huh.
bzz bzz bbzzz
Wake up Fred!! You’re dreaming, that is your alarm clock telling you to come back into the real world. You’re fantasizing again.
AAAWW –Did you have to make a refund (s)??