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		<title>By: Randy Velker</title>
		<link>http://blog.mapawatt.com/2009/08/20/renewable-energy-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-9948</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Velker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chris,  These build your own solar panels are certainly scams.  The main problem is that even if you follow their instruction you simply get a panel that is shoddily constructed.  No way should anyone use one of these homemade panels for anything other than a simple science project.  Maybe run a small radio off it to impress the friends.

The panel would not be UL listed and should never be connected to the electrical grid (that your house is connected too).

Of course for only double what it costs to but those 2nd&#039;s or leftover silicon solar cells you can go ahead and buy a UL listed solar panel that can be connected to the grid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chris,  These build your own solar panels are certainly scams.  The main problem is that even if you follow their instruction you simply get a panel that is shoddily constructed.  No way should anyone use one of these homemade panels for anything other than a simple science project.  Maybe run a small radio off it to impress the friends.</p>
<p>The panel would not be UL listed and should never be connected to the electrical grid (that your house is connected too).</p>
<p>Of course for only double what it costs to but those 2nd&#8217;s or leftover silicon solar cells you can go ahead and buy a UL listed solar panel that can be connected to the grid.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://blog.mapawatt.com/2009/08/20/renewable-energy-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-9034</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,
Here is what their website says for residential users: &quot;residential customers to &lt;strong&gt;protect their equipment and reduce their cost of operation&lt;/strong&gt;.&quot;  It doesnt say reduce energy bills.  I commend them for that.  Because as I wrote in a post on &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.mapawatt.com/2009/03/31/power-factor/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;power factor correction&lt;/a&gt;, it doesnt help residential customers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,<br />
Here is what their website says for residential users: &#8220;residential customers to <strong>protect their equipment and reduce their cost of operation</strong>.&#8221;  It doesnt say reduce energy bills.  I commend them for that.  Because as I wrote in a post on <a href="http://blog.mapawatt.com/2009/03/31/power-factor/" rel="nofollow">power factor correction</a>, it doesnt help residential customers!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://blog.mapawatt.com/2009/08/20/renewable-energy-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-8987</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great blog...Thanks for you research!  I was looking into a device called the powershaver to reduce my electric bills. Has anyone looked into this device?   Powershaver.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great blog&#8230;Thanks for you research!  I was looking into a device called the powershaver to reduce my electric bills. Has anyone looked into this device?   Powershaver.com</p>
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		<title>By: John Johnson</title>
		<link>http://blog.mapawatt.com/2009/08/20/renewable-energy-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-7548</link>
		<dc:creator>John Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 06:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just Energy currently has a wholesale price flexible plan plus 1 penny which comes with the option as a non-green plan. Green plans are always more expensive. This is a great plan and is not a scam as you state. Unfortunately not all independent agents explain the program properly to their customers. All agents must wear id badges when out in the field as fully identifying themselves as Just Energy Agents. All contracts signed in the field are verified from the customers phone and getting their agreement to the contract over the phone with the agent present. There is also a 10 day cooling off period, which gives the customer time to review the contract before reaffirming registration. The customer also has 30 days to cancel their contract with Just Energy after they receive their first bill if they are not satisfied. And on the non-green plans, there is only an exit fee of $100, not what has been stated in previous blogs. There is a higher exit fee for green plans, which is fully explained in the contract. It&#039;s apparent from this blog comments that people don&#039;t read their contracts and don&#039;t read them within the time frame of cancellation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just Energy currently has a wholesale price flexible plan plus 1 penny which comes with the option as a non-green plan. Green plans are always more expensive. This is a great plan and is not a scam as you state. Unfortunately not all independent agents explain the program properly to their customers. All agents must wear id badges when out in the field as fully identifying themselves as Just Energy Agents. All contracts signed in the field are verified from the customers phone and getting their agreement to the contract over the phone with the agent present. There is also a 10 day cooling off period, which gives the customer time to review the contract before reaffirming registration. The customer also has 30 days to cancel their contract with Just Energy after they receive their first bill if they are not satisfied. And on the non-green plans, there is only an exit fee of $100, not what has been stated in previous blogs. There is a higher exit fee for green plans, which is fully explained in the contract. It&#8217;s apparent from this blog comments that people don&#8217;t read their contracts and don&#8217;t read them within the time frame of cancellation.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://blog.mapawatt.com/2009/08/20/renewable-energy-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-6929</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 19:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan, you are right,they will not answer you or even give you a small peak into it as they are looking for funds for the idea and are going about it the wrong way.
An idea is one thing ,but to prove it is something else.
I have worked for years on magnet generators and always end up with something which stops it from functioning correctly or even running to the correct coeffeint.
So, I came to the conclusion that I was wasting time and should move to other things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan, you are right,they will not answer you or even give you a small peak into it as they are looking for funds for the idea and are going about it the wrong way.<br />
An idea is one thing ,but to prove it is something else.<br />
I have worked for years on magnet generators and always end up with something which stops it from functioning correctly or even running to the correct coeffeint.<br />
So, I came to the conclusion that I was wasting time and should move to other things.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://blog.mapawatt.com/2009/08/20/renewable-energy-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-6647</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 22:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody built a magnetic generator that works.
This site: http://topmagneticgenerator.com claim it has build 
a magnetic generator, but when I asked them for pictures and 
proof that it works no one got back to me on this matter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody built a magnetic generator that works.<br />
This site: <a href="http://topmagneticgenerator.com" rel="nofollow">http://topmagneticgenerator.com</a> claim it has build<br />
a magnetic generator, but when I asked them for pictures and<br />
proof that it works no one got back to me on this matter</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://blog.mapawatt.com/2009/08/20/renewable-energy-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-6578</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yow dudes,boy it is good to hear you guys going off about the scams.
Need to keep the alternate energy field clean for those that are really trying to give it a go.
If they are scammers ,nail their a..
*I have been interested in the alternate energy field all my life and have or should I say at present am patenting a solar heating system.Will send photos to email addresses when it is through the pateent office.
I just love exposing these guys who do not have any thing to add to the alternate energy field.
Mark (your friendly neighbourhood weirdo)
South Africa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yow dudes,boy it is good to hear you guys going off about the scams.<br />
Need to keep the alternate energy field clean for those that are really trying to give it a go.<br />
If they are scammers ,nail their a..<br />
*I have been interested in the alternate energy field all my life and have or should I say at present am patenting a solar heating system.Will send photos to email addresses when it is through the pateent office.<br />
I just love exposing these guys who do not have any thing to add to the alternate energy field.<br />
Mark (your friendly neighbourhood weirdo)<br />
South Africa</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://blog.mapawatt.com/2009/08/20/renewable-energy-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-6520</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 06:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, A couple comments: At least in Nevada, if you are generating Electricity, the power company has to buy any excess from you. I know a fellow in Reno who has banks of solar panels for his home. The Power Company put a Debit/Credit meter on the side of his house. In July he had over twice the KWH&#039;s to his credit. Also in Nevada, if you buy a Farm, KEEP ON FARMING! Electrical Rates are considerably less, IF you are &quot;Farming&quot;. You have to ask about it. In addition to being a scam, magniwork, uses video off the site of Lutec Australia, to promote their scam on YouTube. Lutec, a big player in Free Energy, as an R &amp; D company, has noted this on their web site. I know two families who are 100% off the grid/Solar (no grid around), long dirt road access. Generator Bob, a rancher, installed both setups, his and a good friend&#039;s. What impressed me most was he didn&#039;t spair any expense in doing the work. The batteries are mounted on racks that were fashioned to be serviced once in awhile, with a minumum of hastle. Wire, panels, connections, and fittings were the best, meticulous instalation. Our mutual friend&#039;s setup will handle three 3.5 KW Inverters. There doesn&#039;t seem to be any silver bullet with this Free Energy notion. Need to see Generator Bob for any updates on his first Adventures.   Jerry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, A couple comments: At least in Nevada, if you are generating Electricity, the power company has to buy any excess from you. I know a fellow in Reno who has banks of solar panels for his home. The Power Company put a Debit/Credit meter on the side of his house. In July he had over twice the KWH&#8217;s to his credit. Also in Nevada, if you buy a Farm, KEEP ON FARMING! Electrical Rates are considerably less, IF you are &#8220;Farming&#8221;. You have to ask about it. In addition to being a scam, magniwork, uses video off the site of Lutec Australia, to promote their scam on YouTube. Lutec, a big player in Free Energy, as an R &amp; D company, has noted this on their web site. I know two families who are 100% off the grid/Solar (no grid around), long dirt road access. Generator Bob, a rancher, installed both setups, his and a good friend&#8217;s. What impressed me most was he didn&#8217;t spair any expense in doing the work. The batteries are mounted on racks that were fashioned to be serviced once in awhile, with a minumum of hastle. Wire, panels, connections, and fittings were the best, meticulous instalation. Our mutual friend&#8217;s setup will handle three 3.5 KW Inverters. There doesn&#8217;t seem to be any silver bullet with this Free Energy notion. Need to see Generator Bob for any updates on his first Adventures.   Jerry</p>
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		<title>By: Earth4Energy: The Build-Your-Own-Solar-Panels-for-$200 Scam? &#124; CB Digital Product Reviews</title>
		<link>http://blog.mapawatt.com/2009/08/20/renewable-energy-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-4480</link>
		<dc:creator>Earth4Energy: The Build-Your-Own-Solar-Panels-for-$200 Scam? &#124; CB Digital Product Reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Mapawatt also did their own review of Earth4Energy and considers them misleading. They go on to comment that a lot of the renewable energy products on ClickBank are somehow related to each other,  perhaps the same info being repackaged. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Mapawatt also did their own review of Earth4Energy and considers them misleading. They go on to comment that a lot of the renewable energy products on ClickBank are somehow related to each other,  perhaps the same info being repackaged. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Bayldon</title>
		<link>http://blog.mapawatt.com/2009/08/20/renewable-energy-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-3964</link>
		<dc:creator>John Bayldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Genuine free heat scheme

Get 60&#039; of 1&quot; or 3/4&quot; old iron pipe from scrapyard and a compressor, refrigeration unit of an old walk in freezer/ coldroom (check it&#039;s domestic supply-1ph- if that&#039;s what you have) together with all its wires and control box. dig a trench at least 2&#039;6&quot; deep in your gardern (deeper if you live in a cold place- if you live in somewhere like Siberia- forget it!) and lay your pipe in it. Refill the trench (using wet earth -mud- initially so the piping makes a good contact) Connect up to the feezer unit. Call in a commercial refrigeration engineer and have him connect the unit and evacuate/ charge it and check out the mains installation.
Lead a large, insulated flexi pipe into your home from the refrigeration unit.

Switch on and luxuriate in the cheap heat heat, which should cost you something like 1/4 to 1/8th of usual charge, since you are not generating (much) heat but rather extracting and concentrating it (using some mains energy) to rob free heat from the planet.

I could sell plans, but can&#039;t be bothered to write all the ridiculous hype that the con artists do (hint, as Chris points out -the more hype the geater likelyhood of a con- and the magnets4u fold strenuously avoid telling what the &#039;secret&#039;! is- how it is supposed to work, whilst laying on the hype with a 10&quot; trowell.


And, thimk on- if you already have some alternative energy system installed, like a wind turbine, then you can power the (above) heat extractor from that- far more efficient than trying to generate heat from electricity directly.
This setup would suit someone living in far Nth Scotland, Ireland etc, where the weather was windy and cold.
Should you not require to heat the house, you could use the heatpump to heat water or a swimming pool instead. 

So waddaya waiting for? Get into those dirty overalls, big boots, greasy cap- borrow the dirtiest, rustiest pick up you can find and get down to that junkyard. Never go dressed &#039;posh&#039; to a scrap yard- the man will charge you double. Oh and by the way, tell him &#039;Joe or Louie sent you.&#039; Scrap men always know at least 10 Joes or Louies. And don&#039;t buy a used fridge compressor standing on its own- it&#039;s probably been scrapped because it&#039;s broken. Find a complete, junked, walk in coldroom and remove the unit from that- don&#039;t worry it&#039;ll work. Or ask a friendly commercial refrig engineer to get you a good used one for scrap price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Genuine free heat scheme</p>
<p>Get 60&#8242; of 1&#8243; or 3/4&#8243; old iron pipe from scrapyard and a compressor, refrigeration unit of an old walk in freezer/ coldroom (check it&#8217;s domestic supply-1ph- if that&#8217;s what you have) together with all its wires and control box. dig a trench at least 2&#8217;6&#8243; deep in your gardern (deeper if you live in a cold place- if you live in somewhere like Siberia- forget it!) and lay your pipe in it. Refill the trench (using wet earth -mud- initially so the piping makes a good contact) Connect up to the feezer unit. Call in a commercial refrigeration engineer and have him connect the unit and evacuate/ charge it and check out the mains installation.<br />
Lead a large, insulated flexi pipe into your home from the refrigeration unit.</p>
<p>Switch on and luxuriate in the cheap heat heat, which should cost you something like 1/4 to 1/8th of usual charge, since you are not generating (much) heat but rather extracting and concentrating it (using some mains energy) to rob free heat from the planet.</p>
<p>I could sell plans, but can&#8217;t be bothered to write all the ridiculous hype that the con artists do (hint, as Chris points out -the more hype the geater likelyhood of a con- and the magnets4u fold strenuously avoid telling what the &#8216;secret&#8217;! is- how it is supposed to work, whilst laying on the hype with a 10&#8243; trowell.</p>
<p>And, thimk on- if you already have some alternative energy system installed, like a wind turbine, then you can power the (above) heat extractor from that- far more efficient than trying to generate heat from electricity directly.<br />
This setup would suit someone living in far Nth Scotland, Ireland etc, where the weather was windy and cold.<br />
Should you not require to heat the house, you could use the heatpump to heat water or a swimming pool instead. </p>
<p>So waddaya waiting for? Get into those dirty overalls, big boots, greasy cap- borrow the dirtiest, rustiest pick up you can find and get down to that junkyard. Never go dressed &#8216;posh&#8217; to a scrap yard- the man will charge you double. Oh and by the way, tell him &#8216;Joe or Louie sent you.&#8217; Scrap men always know at least 10 Joes or Louies. And don&#8217;t buy a used fridge compressor standing on its own- it&#8217;s probably been scrapped because it&#8217;s broken. Find a complete, junked, walk in coldroom and remove the unit from that- don&#8217;t worry it&#8217;ll work. Or ask a friendly commercial refrig engineer to get you a good used one for scrap price.</p>
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